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Apple accused of copying iPad design
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Chinese company claims design of its own P88 tablet device is original; threatens to sue Apple for stealing product design, according to reports.
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Chinese hardware manufacturer, Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial, is exploring a possible lawsuit against Apple over allegations the iPad design was a copy of its own tablet PC.
In a news report by Spanish daily El Mundo, the Chinese company's president, Wu Xiaolong, said in an interview that the iPad was similar to its P88, which was commercially launched in October last year.
Wu said he was "angry and flabbergasted" after seeing the news about Apple's iPad.
"It is certainly our design. They've stolen [it] because we presented our P88 to everyone six months ago at the IFA (International Electronics Fair) [in Berlin]," he was quoted in a Shanghaiist article, which cited extensively from El Mundo's report.
Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial is based in Shenzhen, China. The Chinese city is recognized as a location where the manufacture of "shanzhai" or "copycat" mobile phones and other electronic devices is proliferate, Bryan Wang, Springboard Research's Asia-Pacific research director for connectivity and country manager of China, told ZDNet Asia in a previous report.
But Wu, in a separate report by PCWorld, was quoted to say about the company's P88: "For this thing, we are not 'shanzhai' because we were first."
Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial submitted a patent application for the P88 last May, according to Wu, who noted that the approval process can take about a year, making it difficult for the company to sue Apple in the United States. But, he added that "if the iPad enters the Chinese market, we will sue them this spring".
An earlier report by the Shanghaiist stated that the P88 has a 10.2-inch screen that uses resistive touch and runs on an Intel Atom 1.6 gigahertz (GHz) chip, with a battery life of 1.5 hours. Comparatively, the iPad boasts a 9.7-inch capacitive multitouch screen, and is powered by a 1GHz Apple A4 custom-designed chip with a stated battery life of 10 hours.
Wu's threat of legal action is not the only lawsuit the Cupertino-based company may potentially face.
The New York Times last week reported that Fujitsu is currently talking to lawyers over the iPad naming rights. The Japanese company said it first applied for an iPad trademark in 2003 for a multifunctional device used by shop clerks to "verify prices, check real-time inventory data and close sales on the go", and which is sold mainly in the United States.
"It's our understanding that the name is ours," Masahiro Yamane, director of Fujitsu's public relations division, said in the report.
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RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
unfortunately Apple do 'copy' other competitors patented features in their products so why aren't they being sued they same way you're suggesting...
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Lets not forget that a software designer in Vermont developed a music download and management software application and brought it to Apple. Apple did not express interest and therefor did not buy the guy's idea, but several months later came out with iTunes, which was a rip off his idea. Apple has a bad track record when it comes to ripping off others ideas, but they are not the only tech giant that does this, ie microsoft, cisco, google....
Apple accused of copying iPad design
Years ago Apple sued GEM (a pre-Windows GUI) over the design of the trash can. Xerox PARC's comment at the time was something like "Gee we didn't sue them when they stole the transh can design from us..."
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
The thing is they say they launched it 6 months ago and had a patent 1 year ago I think for Apple to have got the iPad up and running from scratch as a copy of someone elses design in a year or less is pretty much impossible considering the r @ d that would need to be done as well as all the health and safety issues ana testing a new design has to go through. The man is talking out of his donkey.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
The thing is they say they launched it 6 months ago and had a patent 1 year ago I think for Apple to have got the iPad up and running from scratch as a copy of someone elses design in a year or less is pretty much impossible considering the r @ d that would need to be done as well as all the health and safety issues ana testing a new design has to go through. The man is talking out of his donkey.
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
I agree, and to think that the Ipad technology is so similar to a big ITouch makes the argument even stupider. They already had most of the technology.
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Unless Apple has filed for substantially the same patents at an earlier date, I'm not sure it matters who did what when. Does patent infringement have to be intentional? I don't think so. There are people who look around for inventions that were never patented by the original inventors and then go and file patents applications on them.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Ha Ha Ha... I'm assuming that was meant to be funny. Otherwise you'd be being an idiot. I wonder ?
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Lets not forget that a software designer in Vermont developed a music download and management software application and brought it to Apple. Apple did not express interest and therefor did not buy the guy's idea, but several months later came out with iTunes, which was a rip off his idea. Apple has a bad track record when it comes to ripping off others ideas, but they are not the only tech giant that does this, ie microsoft, cisco, google....
RE: RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
iTunes was completely built on top of Soundjam a company purchased by Apple. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundJam_MP
I own a license for Soundjam and was a Soundjam user in 1998 up until it was reskinned into iTunes in 2001.
RE: RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
They Bought Sound Jam form Cassidy & Green. It became the starting point of iTunes. Try not making stuff up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundJam_MP
RE: RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
iTunes was completely built on top of Soundjam a company purchased by Apple. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundJam_MP
I own a license for Soundjam and was a Soundjam user in 1998 up until it was reskinned into iTunes in 2001.
Let me get this straight. You think that after hearing from a software designer in VT, Apple said "Whoa! Good idea!" developed iTunes in a space of a couple of months, and then took it to market? Let me suggest two alternative proposals: (1) Apple already had all this in the works and wasn't interested because they were a few months from product launch and (2) you are a moron. These hypotheses explain all the facts,
RE: RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
They Bought Sound Jam form Cassidy & Green. It became the starting point of iTunes. Try not making stuff up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundJam_MP
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
I agree, and to think that the Ipad technology is so similar to a big ITouch makes the argument even stupider. They already had most of the technology.
Apple accused of copying iPad design
Let me see, slightly smaller screen, touch pad keyboard, APPLE CPU - may be 'similar', hardly breaches any patents!!!! Plenty of 'similar' MP3 players, no noted patents cases!!!!
Suggest P88 company does an 8 P and drops futile and stupid ie senseless accusations!!!!
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Unless Apple has filed for substantially the same patents at an earlier date, I'm not sure it matters who did what when. Does patent infringement have to be intentional? I don't think so. There are people who look around for inventions that were never patented by the original inventors and then go and file patents applications on them.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
well apple is apple we all gotta admit
You may be talking about the iTunes store, I don't know.
iTunes itself was developed from SoundJam a product from Casady and Greene, WHICH WAS BOUGHT BY APPLE!
Yes, other products appear to have been developed by others, but many programs and devices are in development for many years before reaching the market.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
I agree, did anyone go to any of the links.
Different size, different shape, more ports, abysmal battery life.
The two are substantially different and the iPad looks like a big iPhone, Apple should sue itself. Also, the Chinese company is touting multitouch, doesn't Apple have some patents on that tech.
Apple accused of copying iPad design
You would really print this article without any pics of the Chinese model??! How frustrating and pointless!
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Follow the link to El Mundo. The article is in Spanish, but there are pictures of the P88 device.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Follow the link to El Mundo. The article is in Spanish, but there are pictures of the P88 device.
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
The P88 have more similarities with HP's Tablet, than with the iPad. besides any who have had it in had would not think iPad, but "f*** overpriced Chinese c***". It's generally made with off the shelf components and with very little R&D.
Battery power is less than 1.5H lifetime.
If Wu sue, then it will only be a publicity stunt and nothing else. Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial is initially build on copying western products and their current "R&D" departsment is still not much to talk about.
RE: RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
The P88 have more similarities with HP's Tablet, than with the iPad. besides any who have had it in had would not think iPad, but "f*** overpriced Chinese c***". It's generally made with off the shelf components and with very little R&D.
Battery power is less than 1.5H lifetime.
If Wu sue, then it will only be a publicity stunt and nothing else. Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial is initially build on copying western products and their current "R&D" departsment is still not much to talk about.
Apple accused of copying iPad design
iPad is an evolution of iPhone/iTouch. That is where the design cues originates.
The "Shanzai" cats should ask themselves where they get the inspiration from at the first place.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
The copycat calling a tiger a cheat. Shame on them!
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
The copycat calling a tiger a cheat. Shame on them!
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Apple accused of copying iPad design
I think Apple should sue them for copying iPhone/iPad design form. They also probably did this assuming Apple would base the iPad on this design so they could use its launch to gain publicity and try to get some easy cash through courts.
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
unfortunately Apple do 'copy' other competitors patented features in their products so why aren't they being sued they same way you're suggesting...
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
Ha Ha Ha... I'm assuming that was meant to be funny. Otherwise you'd be being an idiot. I wonder ?
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
well apple is apple we all gotta admit
RE: Apple accused of copying iPad design
I agree, did anyone go to any of the links.
Different size, different shape, more ports, abysmal battery life.
The two are substantially different and the iPad looks like a big iPhone, Apple should sue itself. Also, the Chinese company is touting multitouch, doesn't Apple have some patents on that tech.