Ballmer: IBM in the crosshairs

By Martin LaMonica, CNET News.com
Monday, March 20, 2006 02:17 PM

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
newsmaker At Microsoft, it's no longer just about bits and bytes.

The company has for years marketed its products to the tech elite within big companies. Now Microsoft is making concerted effort to speak the language of top executives.

Why? Because business managers, marketing executives and other nontechies are increasingly involved in technology purchasing decisions, Microsoft argues. Another reason for the shift is IBM. Microsoft's chief rival in the business software area has been pitching to CEOs for years, relying on its business-savvy consultants to help win deals. In essence, Microsoft needs to speak Big Blue's language.

At a press conference on Thursday in New York, Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer spoke to about 500 corporate executives about his company's overarching plan for business computing.

Ballmer--known for his "developers, developers, developers" chant to rally the Microsoft troops--changed his tune for the business crowd. This time it was "people, people, people"--how end-users can be more productive and creative with the right tools.

He drew a contrast between that approach and IBM's, saying the company is increasingly focused on services and consulting. Big Blue, naturally, disagrees with Ballmer's assessment.

After his keynote speech, Ballmer spoke to CNET News.com about the Microsoft-versus-IBM rivalry, the role of hosted services, and prospects for growth.

Q: Today there seemed like a very deliberate sell to the CEO, to the business executive. Why is that? Has there been a change in the way your software is bought?
Ballmer: The truth is that the way information technology decisions are made in a company is really complicated. You really have four points of view, and we have to work with all of them--end-users, central IT, line-of-business executives, and then the business leaders, who could be the head of sales, finance or operations.

This is not about being against consulting. This is about being for empowering people.

Most of our enterprise IT customers and partners say: "Look, you got to create the air cover for us. If we're going to create these kinds of solutions to let our business be 'people ready,' it can't be just us talking. Microsoft, you have to talk too." I actually get a lot of feedback from IT customers, who say: "Look, whatever the business message is, you have to help us with the air cover. We'll talk specifically about the technology."

You drew this contrast with IBM, saying that they're a consulting company and Microsoft is a software company. IBM is clearly interested in consulting, but if you want to do some of the Office-based applications that you showed today, you need consultants.
Ballmer: Let me be more clear: We're not anticonsulting. I just came off the board of Accenture recently. I've been on the board four or five years. This is not about being against consulting. This is about being for empowering people, so they can they can empower their company.

And I think IBM's point of view is it's all about the consulting project or the outsourcing. What we would tell you is...we believe in giving people the tools that let themselves collaborate, get insight, deal with exceptions. One of the big differences between good companies and great companies is that great companies deal with the problems and the exceptions a lot better than the good companies.

IBM will tell you we are their No. 1 competitor, so in that sense it sets up the comparison. And we both just started advertising campaigns, so it begs the question: What's different?

Judging from the number of headlines, you'd think that Google or Sony are your most-feared competitors. What's the nature of the competition with IBM?
Ballmer: Clearly in business there's IBM. There are not that many times people are picking between our products and theirs, like Notes, Domino or Workplace, or whatever they're doing. And I do think our point of view is quite different from IBM's. And I think if you asked IBM about their biggest competitor, I don't even think they'd say one of the services companies. I suspect that they'd say us.

So how well is Microsoft doing against IBM?
Ballmer: I think we've never done better. And we're just gaining traction every day. Seriously, look back to a few years ago. Outside of its mainframe presence, DB2 (IBM's database software) is a very weak No. 3. Very weak No. 3.

The mainframe--I'm not going to say it's unimportant, it purrs along. They're really losing a lot of traction with Notes. We have more big customers than ever looking to do Notes-to-Exchange migrations with the chaos of Notes, Domino, Workplace, etc. We really weren't in the management business three or four years ago. With System Center, we're starting to build some real traction. Tivoli, if anything, I'd say is floundering--my sense. If you look at the app development platform, our Windows server business is going great guns. WebSphere is kind of limping along.

Linux is a competitor--I'm not going to say Linux is not a competitor. That's more of a dogfight. But IBM is not Linux. IBM is WebSphere, Tivoli, DB2, Notes and those things. And I'd say at least in the last three years, in those areas we compete, they have lost traction


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