Dell offers an open-source PC

way to go Dell!!
Posted by CathodioN on Wednesday, October 05 2005 09:37 PM

A little gotcha. The last I heard (I've read it in several places, includung Microsoft's website), Microsoft's "enterprise" licensing required that PC's have XP Home preinstalled, because they are selling you upgrade licenses. They reiterate by saying that Microsoft does not sell full Windows XP licenses directly to customers, that they only sell upgrade licenses, and that you should obtain full licenses through OEM or retailer channels.

I went ahead and bought Dell's last n-series (no OS) offering. It probably cost $10 more than the Windows offering because of the ad space they sell, but at least MS didn't get a cut. Or I hope they didn't get a cut, but I'm not sure because they really bully (threaten to cut off) OEM's for selling what they call "naked PC's", citing that they may be used to install pirated or improperly licensed (read: "enterprise" licensed without XP Home prepurchased) copies of Windows.
Posted by David on Wednesday, October 05 2005 09:44 PM

Looks like it cost $70 not to have Windows installed.

The base version of the Dimension 5150 for small business lists for $679 with a $100 discount. Total cost is $579.

The Dimension 5150n without Windows costs $649 with no discount. It is interesting that:

1. It costs more to get a PC without Windows.
2. There is a rebate to lower the Windows PC. Wonder who is funding this?
Posted by Tom on Wednesday, October 05 2005 11:02 PM

Configuration is expensive for what it is. Purchased a Dell Dimension 4700 for ~$525 with the same specs + Windows XP.
Posted by Jerry Heyman on Thursday, October 06 2005 12:43 AM

It will take fdisk about 5 mins to format the existing NTFS or FAT32 partition with EXT3 :).
Complete the install you were going to do anyway and pocket the 70 bucks.
Or just buy a dual-core AMD system from someone who is not giving in to Intel's bullying.
Posted by Kevin D on Thursday, October 06 2005 12:50 AM

David,
I haven't purchased a Windows license or even had a working Windows installation since I bought Windows 95a on floppies from Office Depot in 1997 (they did not have a full install version on CD so I couldn't buy 95b, which was OEM-only). 13 floppies cost me $200.00. Since then the only OSes I have installed have been Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD. I have avoided the "Microsoft Tax" for eight years by the simple expedient of building my own systems.

While I agree with KevinD that you can save money by wiping the HDD and installing the OS of choice on a machine WITH the "Windows discount," some people have a logical problem with the idea of paying Microsoft for a discount. On the other hand, I see it as a GOOD thing that Dell is standing up to Microsoft by joining the "naked PC Brigade."
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Posted by cyber_rigger on Thursday, October 06 2005 01:10 AM

Why not ship with Linux installed? Are they afraid that Microsoft will get angry?
Posted by Tsu Dho Nimh on Thursday, October 06 2005 07:58 AM

screw linux
Posted by anonymous on Thursday, October 06 2005 09:50 AM

The whole point of the open-source PC is to install whatever operating system you want. So if your computer comes pre-installed with linux someone is going to have to pick which flavor of linux.
Posted by Andrew P on Thursday, October 06 2005 11:27 AM

hmmm.... sounds like a half hearted effort with a balancing act to follow?
Posted by Jazzy on Thursday, October 06 2005 04:58 PM

Anybody tried FreeDOS? Is it easy to use and install? Does it work with the various USB and graphics hardware drivers?
Posted by nontechead on Thursday, October 06 2005 05:01 PM

I wonder if it is available in Asia, Singapore - since I live here....
Posted by Jesan on Thursday, October 06 2005 05:02 PM

Nope, it's not available in Asia for now, pending market demand.
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Posted by Aaron Tan on Thursday, October 13 2005 06:37 PM

Yeah... I got an Acer notebook for $1,158 Singapore Dollar and it comes with a simplified Linpus Linux.

Everyone wanna a piece of non-Windows computer, not because it's just cheap but because:

1. Linux seems to be much more installation-friendly

2. After using computer for some time, most users will understand that having a computer is all about surfing the net, checking email, using Words/Excel/PowerPoint and probably some games. And Linux has Mozilla, Evolution and OpenOffice under its Gnome interface.

3. Microsoft OS is too prone to many viruses, wormes and problems. I might take some time to learn Linux but I wouldn't lose a year of work with it.


However, the problem with Linux is that major suppliers of components to PC/Laptop are too lazy to write drivers for this upcoming platform. I have my fair share of top executive from Broadcom ignoring this fact and stating that their "historically low" statistic shows that there is no market for such drivers even though there are underground movement of people writing workarounds drivers.

Yes, buy that Open-Source PC but beware that things are not as cool if you're using the OS with a Penguin as its mascot.

check out www.broadcomwireless.blogspot.com for my experience...
Posted by Historically Low on Wednesday, October 26 2005 03:50 PM