Is the future of desktop Linux going thin?

By Aaron Tan, ZDNet Asia
Monday, September 25, 2006 11:55 AM

update While the thin-client approach makes Linux PCs easier to manage, there are still kinks to iron out with desktop Linux operating system (OS), according to market analyst Gartner.

Last month, thin-client software provider released its 2X TerminalServer for Linux, an open source terminal server that lets Linux desktop users run both Linux and Windows applications over dial-up and LAN (local area network) connections.

2X CEO Nikolaos Makris said in a statement that it will require a terminal server approach for Linux to penetrate the desktop market. "Only with the more advanced thin-client approach, will Linux be able to outdo Windows fat clients in a company's network."

In an interview with ZDNet Asia, Makris explained that the main problem with Linux desktops is that they run as "administration-intensive, virus- and error-prone fat clients" in a network.

"A terminal server for Linux provides users with a secure, easily accessible and centrally manageable personal Linux desktop," he said.

Sandeep Menon, director of Linux business at Novell West Asia disagreed, noting that remote management can also be enabled on rich clients. He holds the view that both thin clients as well as rich clients, will co-exist for different customer segments, at least for a while.

"Today, if one is a power user who works on multiple applications at a time and deals with a lot of local data, a rich client will still be the preferred alternative," he explained. "However, if the use is simple and restricted, for example, as retail point-of-sale terminals, the thin client may be a much better alternative."

Menon also rebuffed suggestions that Linux desktops are virus prone. "It is a well-known fact that today, Linux on any kind of system is far less vulnerable to viruses, than traditional proprietary environments. And once up and running, Linux systems actually require very little intervention, unless the system administrator actively needs to make some changes," he said.

However, Dion Wiggins, Gartner's vice president and research director, noted that adopting a thin-client approach does not resolve the bugbears that have plagued desktop Linux.

"The bottom line is why would this be any better?" Wiggins said. "At the end of the day, Linux has many issues on the desktop than just being a terminal."

The analyst explained that the key problems with desktop Linux stem from having two competing desktop environments--K Desktop Environment (KDE) and Gnome. "The moment you develop for two [environments], there's obviously going to be extra work, testing and time-to-market," he said.

About 2X TerminalServer
2X TerminalServer for Linux employs a compression protocol known as NX X-Windows.
X Windows, the windowing system commonly used in Linux and Unix operating systems, is highly bandwidth-intensive and does not work well over low-bandwidth connections.
2X said: "The NX protocol on the other hand, compresses the X-Window protocol and enables users to run a complete Linux desktop with Linux and Windows applications, over slow dial-up links.
"On LANs, it means a much higher number of clients can be supported without affecting network speed."


    Paul Kangro, applied technology specialist at Novell Australia, noted that one of the key aspects of Linux is the availability of choice. He added that competition between KDE and Gnome has accelerated the development of Linux desktops.

    Kangro said: "Novell decided that we will ship both KDE and Gnome with Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10, so no decision [to choose one over the other] needs to be made by the end user as both are supported.

    "The fundamental difference is that KDE is written using C++ and Gnome is written using C. Just as any developer needs to decide on what language they will write any given application, the same decision needs to be made for Linux desktop applications."

    While Wiggins acknowledged that the thin-client path can resolve desktop management blues, the same goals may also be met with virtualization technology, where centrally-managed virtualized OS environments are delivered to user desktops.

    Still, he noted that the Linux server platform has become more standardized than it had been in the past, and the same will happen with its desktop counterpart over time.

    In April this year, the Free Standards Group (FSG) released Linux Standards Base (LSB) 3.1, the first version of the LSB to include explicit Linux desktop application support. FSG is a nonprofit organization that develops and promotes open source software standards.

    Major Linux vendors have said they will comply with LSB 3.1 in the coming months, according to the FSG.

    According to a Gartner report in June this year, the overall thin-client computing market will continue to grow at a steady pace during the next several years. The analyst noted that this growth will be fueled by falling thin-client terminal prices, the inevitable need for users to replace aging terminal devices, and improvements in thin-client software primarily from Microsoft and Citrix.

    Worldwide thin-client hardware shipments grew 38 percent in 2005 compared with the previous year, topping 2.2 million units, Gartner said. This was the strongest growth reported for the market since 2000.


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    Where does anyone get the idea that a Linux destop is "virus ridden" and "administrative intensive"? There hasn't been a Linux desktop install in my life that did EVER catch a virus or needed ANY administration at all..! My desktop runs for 3 - 4 months at a stretch without reboot and never needs a reinstall over a period of 3 - 4 years. It is shared by several people and maintained (an occasional update of an installed program or implementing patches). During these action, no reboot is needed.

    X and X-Windows terminals implement already (and for a long time) what MS and Citrix are trying to do for years..

    Aren't you people mixing up Windows with Linux???
    Posted by Hans Bezemer on Monday, September 25 2006 04:55 PM

    I agree with Hans. I have never had a single virus on any of the Linux systems I administer. And admin is no problem either.

    Personally I am getting tired of seeing articles titled as if they are a news item about Linux and have the entire text be nothing more than an add for Microsoft Windows.

    This is not journalism. When reporting on Vista, do they only list what is said by Microsoft's detractors? Do they EVER say anything against it?
    Posted by R. Hawkins on Monday, September 25 2006 05:13 PM

    "In an interview with ZDNet Asia, Makris explained that the main problem with Linux desktops is that they run as "administration-intensive, virus- and error-prone fat clients" in a network."

    This is not so much as actual truth as it is marketing. This man has a product to sell. To make the statement that linux is virus-prone shows from the beginning he is trying to create a problem his product can solve. Unfortunately, How real is the idea that Linux is virus prone? From all I have read and done, it's not.

    I don't mind people trying to sell a viable product, but please don't resort to making incorrect statements just for the sake of money. It is not becomoing for Linux overall and smacks of another huge corporations machinations to create problems where there are none.
    Posted by Big Bear on Monday, September 25 2006 08:14 PM

    Has the person they are interviewing ever USED Linux? How about windows?

    I guarantee he/she will find Linux bulletproof when compared to the MS garbage in regards to viruses and administrative ease.

    You're "magazine" is looking more like an M$ shill every day.
    Posted by Guy Tayler on Monday, September 25 2006 10:50 PM

    Honestly, get your facts straight!

    Firstly it's a bit of a stretch to claim that any Linux desktop is "virus-prone" when there are no wild viruses for the linux platform.

    Secondly, it is claimed here that developing for two desktop environments is a major problem and make it sound like it involves separate testing for each. Any program that can run on KDE can be run on GNOME and vice versa, you just need the appropriate libraries. The most testing required is a check that the application looks OK on each.

    Thirdly, you state that virtualisation is a solution for central management. Do your research! Virtualisation is a solution for running several operating systems on one machine and has nothing to do with centralised desktop management. Deploying an image from a network boot server (As it sounds like you're talking about) is a completely different system.

    I know you're quoting somebody, but perhaps you should review their statements before writing an article based entirely on one interview. These ones should at least have brought a request for clarification before you decided to base an article on them.
    Posted by Timothy Goddard on Tuesday, September 26 2006 05:04 AM

    If ignorance is bliss, your interviewee is very very happy indeed. What absolute twaddle. You should be ashamed of publishing this bizarre misinformation...
    Posted by Thomas Overton on Tuesday, September 26 2006 06:31 PM

    You may not be aware that virtualization has already gone beyond running multiple OSes on a single machine. You can send virtualized apps to fat client desktops without them installing anything. VMware has also tied up with Wyse to deliver virtualised PCs to thin clients.
    Posted by Sanjay Kumar on Wednesday, September 27 2006 01:14 AM


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