HTML 5 drops open source video codec

By David Meyer, ZDNet UK
Monday, July 06, 2009 09:28 AM

HTML 5 will no longer specify Ogg Theora as its video codec, the Google employee who maintains the burgeoning Web-coding standard has announced.

Ian Hickson wrote last week that he was reluctantly dropping the open standard due to opposition from Apple and said the rival H.264 codec could also not be specified due to opposition from other browser vendors. This means HTML 5 will not specify a single codec for Web development.

One of the key features of HTML 5 is its native handling of rich media such as video and audio through the video and audio tags, which mean Web developers do not have to rely on proprietary products such as Adobe's Flash or Microsoft's Silverlight.

However, "there is no suitable codec that all vendors are willing to implement and ship", Hickson wrote on the Web site of the Web Hypertext Application Technology (WHAT) Working Group, the coalition of companies working to develop HTML 5.

"I have therefore removed the two subsections in the HTML 5 spec in which codecs would have been required, and have instead left the matter undefined, as has in the past been done with other features like IMG and image formats, embed and plugin APIs, or Web fonts and font formats," Hickson wrote.

Hickson said that Apple will not implement Ogg Theora for Quicktime video due to "lack of hardware support and an uncertain patent landscape", although he acknowledged that he may have oversimplified the situation in that assessment. ZDNet Asia's sister site ZDNet UK has approached Apple for confirmation and clarification of this, but had not received an answer at the time of writing.

Google has implemented both H.264 and Ogg Theora in Chrome. However, Google cannot provide the H.264 codec license to third-party distributors of Chromium, the Linux version of Chrome, and has indicated a belief that Ogg Theora's quality-per-bit is not yet suitable for the volume handled by YouTube, according to Hickson.

Opera and Mozilla--the latter of whom has built Ogg Theora support into its recently released Firefox 3--will not implement H.264 due to patent and licensing issues, and Microsoft has "not commented on their intent to support video at all", Hickson wrote.

Hickson suggested two future scenarios: One where Ogg Theora support and use increases to the point where Apple's concern regarding patents is reduced, in which case Theora becomes the de facto codec for the Web; and one where the relevant H.264 patents expire and that standard becomes freely available, in which case H.264 becomes the de facto technology.

"The situation for audio codecs is similar, but less critical, as there are more formats," Hickson wrote. "Since audio has a much lower profile than video, I propose to observe the audio feature and see if any common codecs surface, instead of specifically requiring any. I will revisit this particular topic in the future when common codecs emerge."

Hickson noted in his post that he was "incredibly sorry" about the state of video codecs in HTML 5. "This is a terrible situation for the spec to be in," he wrote. "I wish we had good answers instead of this quagmirish deadlock."


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Industry FAIL
EPIC FAIL technology industry. Thanks for keeping us stuck in the mud with your 1990's mentalities. If they haven't figured out by now the amazing opportunities that come out of having standardized, unencumbered formats then they apparently missed the point of HTML 1 through 4.
Posted by anonymous on Tuesday, July 07 2009 02:18 AM

RE: unemcumbered formats
How about Dirac? Although I'm sure Apple and MS would whinge about that too.
Posted by blackrabbit on Thursday, July 16 2009 12:37 AM

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
Time to abolish software patents maybe?
Way to stint innovation.
Posted by illunatic P. irate on Tuesday, July 07 2009 02:25 AM

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
Stupid greedy companies killing innovation...
Posted by Alain Rivest on Tuesday, July 07 2009 11:12 AM

Ian should've told Apple to go home, then!
At some point, you've got to take a stand for the good of the industry overall, not just one whiny corporation and its Cult-of-Mac fanbois. Unfortunately, Ian ended up not being man enough to do that, which is a shame. Such wimpiness hurts our industry.

Ogg Theora has no "uncertain patent landscape", unless you define "uncertain" as "not owned by Apple". Xiph.org has made it clear that any patents on Ogg Theora are have a perpetual, royalty-free license.

This is more FUD from Apple. Note that they don't object to H.264, which is also patent-encumbered. Apple is afraid of truly open multimedia standards for the same reason Microsoft is. They both want vendor lock-in.

Apple can take their iToys and go straight to that nether place.

LONG LIVE FIREFOX!!!

--SYG
Posted by Sum Yung Gai on Wednesday, July 08 2009 05:44 AM

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
On a positive note, Opera is leading HTML 5 support with their Presto layout engine. And as usual despite being closed source, Opera hasn't been evil yet. You can see good use of the multimedia elements of the spec with Opera's Unite service.
Posted by Chris Fordham on Friday, July 10 2009 09:28 AM

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
How can a guy that works for Google be making decisions about something that will impact so many free (non-capitalist) minded people in world? This seems like it should be a conflict of interest given their relationship to Youtube and thereby Adobe.. the new media power triangle. Obviously a failure and corrupt decision made about a very important choice. Maybe its time to start embracing plurality and stop expecting standards races to determine the future. I know it was a complex choice but come on by a guy who works for Google?!
Posted by Peter Herz on Sunday, July 26 2009 05:15 AM

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
Hey guys! Let's standardize on an online video format that doesn't support VFR, interlacing, or large bit depths! Oh, wait, that's a terrible idea.

Face it: Theora/Vorbis are inferior codecs. Making everyone use ogg for everything on the Web would be like telling everyone that IMG will only support gifs, i.e. really stupid. Far better to let the freetards use ogg when they feel the need to, and let people who care about things like video and audio quality use better formats.
Posted by anonymous on Friday, August 07 2009 02:52 AM

RE: HTML 5 drops open source video codec
I'm sure something like this happened at Apple's headquarters

dilbert.com...
Posted by anonymous on Wednesday, September 02 2009 03:51 PM


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